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JahtiJakt clothing
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Pierre Ambrosia
2006-12-24 14:28:29 UTC
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Any of you guys bought one of these suits as advertised all over the net
http://www.arcticoutdoor.co.uk/jj_pro_uk/jj_pro/pro_intro.htm
and tested in the shooting mags?

Verdict?


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Michael Roberts
2006-12-26 09:28:07 UTC
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Post by Pierre Ambrosia
Any of you guys bought one of these suits as advertised all over the net
http://www.arcticoutdoor.co.uk/jj_pro_uk/jj_pro/pro_intro.htm
and tested in the shooting mags? > Verdict? Pete
Well, I bought the outfit a couple of months ago. Seems to be OK so far but
have not tried the outfit in proper cold weather (high seat for a few hours
for a couple of days but temperaturee was only about +4 degrees centigrade)
not in proper (scottish!) wet weather. I bought it because i wanted to save
weight when I take two groups out to Poland in early January for driven
boar. Weight for baggage when flying is becoiming more crucial now and the
full outfit certainly weighs a lot less than my usual

. For the price, it's a bargain. Because it's made of man made fibres you
need to avoid bonfire or ciggy sparks (relevant for Poland because we always
have a bonfire in the forest midday and for the parade at the end of the
hunt. Certainly very comfortable. If i do decide to take the kit out and
wear it hard for the 7 days of shooting, then I'll try and remember to let
you know. Michael Roberts. www.countrysports.co.uk

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Jonathan Spencer
2006-12-26 10:08:38 UTC
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Michael,

Your email address bounces. You'll need to do the obvious to mine when
replying.

Your mention of Poland and our friends the piggies caught my eye. When
does the season end and can you let me have some details? I haven't
managed to get out stalking since last February, and my hoped-for hind
trip over the New Year wasn't feasible. So thoughts were turning to a
trip to Poland soon or maybe Africa in the spring.

I not convinced my shooting skills are up to driven boar, but stalking
them would interest me. I don't want to sit up a high seat at night,
and I wouldn't be interested in deer either.

Season's greetings. :o)
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Pierre Ambrosia
2006-12-26 11:48:46 UTC
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sOn Tue, 26 Dec 2006 09:28:07 -0000, Michael Roberts
snip<Well, I bought the outfit a couple of months ago. Seems to be OK so
far
but have not tried the outfit in proper cold weather
. For the price, it's a bargain.
Okay, so far, so good. Here's where I 'm going with a review of my
stalking gear.

I favour moleskin breeches, usually with a Deerstalker Belfast jacket in
winter or shirt/light fleece combo in summer.

Also I'll often wear an old nbc oversuit in dpm which is great for
crawling/dragging etc but just isn't waterproof.

The Belfast is a very warm coat (it's the shag pile fleece) and whilst
it's waterproof, it's not the right thing for crawling through hedges and
ditches on the stalk. (It takes me all morning to butcher the deer and all
week to get the burrs etc out of the fibre pile), so I need a "smooth"
outer layer that won't attract burrs, thorns and all else. If I know it's
going to rain or if I know I'm going to crawling/sprawling on wet ground I
currently wear an American ECWCS goretex oversuit which certainly keeps
the wet stuff out but isn't quiet.

So, I'd started by looking at Laksen, Deerstalker products and similar -
usually in some kind of disruptive pattern. Then I remembered that (a)
animals are colourblind and (b) mostly I'm shooting deer from a static
position which leaves me thinking that the only benefit to a disruptive
pattern suit is on the approach with the risk of being spotted and bumping
the deer.

So, whilst there are "freebies" with the JahtiJakt suit which I won't use,
I'm coming round to the value for money argument. And if I'm going to drag
myself backward through brambles to get at a fallen deer, or to crawl into
position, wouldn't I rather do it in something which didn't cost the
equivalent of the Christmas grocery & drinks bill?


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Michael Roberts
2007-01-21 07:44:23 UTC
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Post by Pierre Ambrosia
Any of you guys bought one of these suits as advertised all over the net
http://www.arcticoutdoor.co.uk/jj_pro_uk/jj_pro/pro_intro.htm
and tested in the shooting mags? > Verdict? Pete
Well, I bought the outfit a couple of months ago. Seems to be OK so far
but have not tried the outfit in proper cold weather (high seat for a few
hours for a couple of days but temperaturee was only about +4 degrees
centigrade) not in proper (scottish!) wet weather. I bought it because i
wanted to save weight when I take two groups out to Poland in early
January for driven boar. Weight for baggage when flying is becoiming more
crucial now and the full outfit certainly weighs a lot less than my usual
. For the price, it's a bargain. Because it's made of man made fibres you
need to avoid bonfire or ciggy sparks (relevant for Poland because we
always have a bonfire in the forest midday and for the parade at the end
of the hunt. Certainly very comfortable. If i do decide to take the kit
out and wear it hard for the 7 days of shooting, then I'll try and
remember to let you know. Michael Roberts. www.countrysports.co.uk
Well, I'm back from my trip to Poland & it was actually colder in Scotland!!
Freakish weather.
Wore the outfit for the week. I would say if it was cold (5 degrees celsius
below freezing or colder) then
this outfit would NOT keep you really warm. It was fine for conditions out
there +5-+10 degrees celsius,
weather wet on many days and very windy so there was fairish chill factor on
some days . So... if I know it's
going to be really cold, I'm sticking to my tested formula (working from
skin outwards) of thermal vest, light shirt, one or two very thin cashmere
jerseys (cheap to buy if in weird colours, but no one sees this underneath
clothing!) , goose down sleeveless vest, tweed shooting coat.
This works down to minus 50 degrees (as tested 4 years ago in Poland!).
Michael Roberts
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Pierre Ambrosia
2007-01-26 20:40:42 UTC
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On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:44:23 -0000, Michael Roberts
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Post by Pierre Ambrosia
Any of you guys bought one of these suits as advertised all over the net
http://www.arcticoutdoor.co.uk/jj_pro_uk/jj_pro/pro_intro.htm
and tested in the shooting mags? > Verdict? Pete
Well, I bought the outfit a couple of months ago. Seems to be OK so far
but have not tried the outfit in proper cold weather. For the price,
it's a bargain.
Well, I'm back from my trip to Poland & it was actually colder in Scotland!!
Freakish weather.
Wore the outfit for the week. I would say if it was cold (5 degrees celsius
below freezing or colder) then
this outfit would NOT keep you really warm. It was fine for conditions out
there +5-+10 degrees celsius,
weather wet on many days and very windy so there was fairish chill factor on
some days . So... if I know it's
going to be really cold, I'm sticking to my tested formula (working from
skin outwards) of thermal vest, light shirt, one or two very thin cashmere
jerseys (cheap to buy if in weird colours, but no one sees this underneath
clothing!) , goose down sleeveless vest, tweed shooting coat.
This works down to minus 50 degrees (as tested 4 years ago in Poland!).
Thanks for this update which is really interesting. I've decided to go
with a Musto Stalker for a number of reasons:

1. A lot of the "free extras" I either already have (fleeces, thermals) or
don't want (funny hat, hivis vest, galluses [braces] thick gloves) so
would be clogging the wardrobe and shed with stuff which then wouldn't be
used.
2. I like my Deerhunter Belfast jacket but being fleece pile it's not the
best for mud crawling or sneaking (!) through brambles and weeds,
especially with moleskin breeches so my aim was to find a near-silent
overlayer which would also serve in warmer weather.
3. Eye for a bargain. My local gents outfitters had a pair of musto
stalker trousers hanging outside during a 50% off sale. Bought the
trousers, now buying the jacket!
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